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Okay, making up for the tech-dry spell we've just come through, we're gonna have two weeks of "what if?" tech spooge to work through. What's to look for?
-EVERYTHING!
Seriously - we're gonna be thinking about this one for ages. The Avenger, the Defiant, and Enterprise herself - in addition to everything getting blown up in the interm. Then there's a Tholian in the crystaline flesh, TOS stuff up the wazoo, and the simple fact that none of this has ANYTHING to do with the series proper. And to top it all off, it's all 100% EVIL!
And don't forget the special opening credits too. Strap yourselves in, this is gonna be a good one!
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Absolutely.. In addition to the various inconsistencies between this Defiant and the one seen in "The Tholian Web" that we'll be picking apart, one thing to look for would be just how much more powerful she is compared to the NX class.
However, we have to wonder if this is a just comparison. An expansionist Earth fleet would have no qualms with taking Andorian shield technology or Klingon photon torpedoes. If we see clues of this tonight, then we'd have to conclude that the Defiant would wipe the floor with a "stock" NX-class even more than the Mirror Universe counterpart; if not, then we're stuck wondering WHY this Empire didnt' go around getting bigger guns while it could.
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Oh my goodness, is there a lot of stuff in THIS one! Not the best story plot-wise, but so much fan-friendly eye candy (and I'm not just referring to the special uniforms) that it's more than worth it (at least as far as I'm concerned).
-- A live Tholian! How cool is that?
-- A tactically useful Tholian Web! My jaw was left drooping with what I expect was a very wide and silly grin for a full thirty seconds after that popped onto the screen.
-- So Phlox and Reed invented the Agony Booth? Kinda appropriate, seeing how "our" Phlox and Reed have been making progress of their own...
-- That new opening theme was pretty damn cool, too. My favorite moment was the reuse of the footage of that ship flying over Copernicus City on the Moon... and launching torpedoes at the surface! (Very clever, if you ask me.)
-- I loved the touch of that extra "war paint" on the ISS Enterprise's hull. Looks like the CGI artists have been taking some hints from Masao's work, if you ask me.
-- So the mirror-Tholians were the ones to first create a connection between "our" universe and the "mirror" universe, eh? Awesome... it's kinda appropriate how it ties in with "The Tholian Web", and a very cool thought to explain that episode, in a way.
-- I loved the touch of making the mirror-NX-01's warp reactor a lot more dangerous to work next to, kinda like working next to a nuclear reactor. And Tucker's makeup is obviously a subtle homage to "The Menagerie"... very nice thinking there!
-- So the Vulcans in the Mirror Universe were sending an "invasion" to Earth back in 2063? Based on later episodes, I somehow doubt that it's JUST the Humans in the MU that are different, so it certainly seems possible. And my fears based on the spoilers, that First Contact was the initial divergence between the universes, proved groundless. Obviously, since it was Cochrane himself who killed Solkar -- Spock's great-grandfather! -- then the event of First Contact couldn't possibly have been the point of divergence.
Overall, I've gotta say this episode was incredibly cool. Lotsa fun, even if it wasn't the greatest storywise!
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Wouldn't it be great if you could get episodes at a certain time, downloaded straight into a little box that would play them instantly? They could even put advertisements in the middle of it to pay for the service. Wow, wouldn't it be great?!
(Sits tapping fingers impatiently, curses tracker and lack of UPN in the area (not that I'll need it after next month).)
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Also of particular note was that the mirror Enterprise could use the transporters and fire weapons while cloaked with the Suliban cloaking device.
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Here's some things I noticed about the mirror NX-01:
Torpedoes fired from ventral saucer surface when attacking the Tholian scout ship
The NX-01 has tractor beams.
Apparently it still has hull plating since Hoshi made a remark about it failing during the web battle (I guess they haven't conquered Andoria yet?).
They can site-to-site beam since the Tholian was beamed directly to the decom chamber.
There's a vocal interface on the ship's computer.
I'm kinda curious about the state of the Suliban in the mirror universe at this point. When we saw the non-Temporal War-enhanced Suliban in the first season, it struck me they weren't much more technologically advanced than humanity. Here, though, the mirror NX-01 crew is using a Suliban cloaking device. Did the temporal cold war happen in this universe, or were the Suliban on a better technological footing than humanity for some reason?
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I expect that the battle of tau Ceti was against Andorians, explaining the lack of andorian technology. The Terran empire uses a lot of Vulcan Technology and in the regular show, the Vulcans and Andorians are pretty much even, so the Andorians should be able to hold their own against an Earth fleet.
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I enjoyed this episode alot. Yuo had the sexiness of 'Mirror, Mirror" and the DS9 mirror universe episodes. You had Vaughn Armstrong back as Forrest, which was a definite treat, and of course, a CGI Defiant, which I am looking forward to seeing in action. The Defiant sets were definitely researched and I am hoping part 2 will bring more, I will nit the unifroms when I see part 2, although I am glad we finally see the actual Defiant patch. I am currently doing an update on the TOS Defiant but will hold off a little until next week. I have to agree this should have been a 2 hour event, but the DVD will be out at the end of the year, so we will see lots of scrren caps to look over and discuss.
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I didn't think those were torpedoes they were firing from the ventral surface, but I could be wrong. I thought they were an entirely different weapon (maybe disruptors replacing the.... crap, what was it they had in "Broken Bow"?).
I'm not sure about who they were fighting the war against. Was it the Tholians, Andorians, or the "rebels" they mentioned?
I also loved seeing the Defiant's engines spinning up, as well as actual escape pods on the Enterprise!
I completely agreed with the choice of making both Reed and Mayweather MACOs. Reed is obvious, but I've thought for a long time now that Mayweather is the best butt-kicker of the lot. Anytime we've seen him in a fight, he comes out on top.
Anyone get screencaps of the intro? There were a couple of scenes there I'd like to see again.
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: I didn't think those were torpedoes they were firing from the ventral surface, but I could be wrong. I thought they were an entirely different weapon (maybe disruptors replacing the.... crap, what was it they had in "Broken Bow"?).
I'm not sure about who they were fighting the war against. Was it the Tholians, Andorians, or the "rebels" they mentioned?
I also loved seeing the Defiant's engines spinning up, as well as actual escape pods on the Enterprise!
I completely agreed with the choice of making both Reed and Mayweather MACOs. Reed is obvious, but I've thought for a long time now that Mayweather is the best butt-kicker of the lot. Anytime we've seen him in a fight, he comes out on top.
Anyone get screencaps of the intro? There were a couple of scenes there I'd like to see again.
*drool* Is it next Friday yet??!!?!!??
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I think it was firing pulse weapons there. 'Our' NX-02 apparently has pulse phase cannons, so why not?
In other news, Tholians can act as transmitters. Wonder what kind of range they get
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