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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: It's sad that Paris went from being aprisoner, to outranking Harry, to a prisoner again, to outranking harry (again).
Kim should have disobeyed orders more often.
Or started hitting on the local half-klingon chick while still flirting with the Captain.
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I'm sure we discussed Janeway's previous command before. Perhaps one of our wizard site-searchers (Jason or Cartman, say, who have this ability to recall and locate something I posted 5 years ago) can dig it up.
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"until someone at Voyager decides to pull a Captain Kirk on us and switch it."
What the heck did I mean by that?
I think the actual line from the episode that mentions the Billings says it was her first assignment "as commander". So whether "commander is capitalized or not makes all the difference. It could mean her first assignment as the commander of the ship, or her first assignment with the rank of Commander. The context seemed to indicate that Tuvok was talking about the trials of command, though, so I've always thought she was the captain of that ship. Though... she might have been the captain of the ship with the rank of Commander...
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TNG-Lower Decks was on today, (where Sito and Lovell were up for the third rotation Ops position against one another and Sito is later killed in a mission she accepted in Cardassian space.) They were both Ensigns fresh out of the academy- Sito was actually in the lead for the position until she was killed- her academy record was certainly not the best of her class, quite the contrary after her problem with lying to the inquiry over the coverup� Lovell got the position nearly by default, and he got promoted to Lt�. While Ensign Kim was head of his class, Joe Starfleet, Head of Ops on the primary shift, and Janeway wouldn�t give up the pip for him. Kim was robbed I say!
In Caretaker when all the Maquis came aboard and put on their new Starfleet uniforms, Seska had on blue and appeared to have been put in charge of science on the bridge, but after that she moved to engineering� Perhaps more plotting could be done there� Voyager always seemed to lack a science officer.
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Janeway probably wanted to micromanage that department herself...
The ship may have left harbor without a science complement aboard, considering her three-hour mission to find and apprehend a group of Maquis ripe for picking. With Caretaker's antics causing a general crew shortage, few of the Maquis replacements would have been shunted to this department (and few would probably have been qualified).
Somebody like Sam Wildman would do the odd science jobs, but she might not have a proper department around her, and Janeway would rely heavily on her engineers and her own wits for scientificialish solutions.
It's less easy to explain why the E-D would have no clearly defined Science Dept head, or a greater role for the assorted sub-department heads like Neela Darren.
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What was the position of that woman who wanted to shag Kahn? (Jason, leave it!)
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I believe they call that position, "Congress of the Cow"
I believe Kahn's soon-to-be-strumpet's position on the ship was only slightly less useless. Does a ship exploring unknown space need an expert on Earth history aboard?
The Historical Fiction Expert was Mr. Whalen from TNG's "The Big Goodbye." To keep myself from completely ignoring certain elements of season one, I'm assuming that Picard simply knew he was an expert on fiction, but that his actual job on the ship was something else. Hardly seems likely that season one Picard would know that much about his nobody crewmembers' personal interests, though.
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The bridge design of the Enterprise-D seemed to make science seem less important too... If I were saying who sat where I'd put that at least next to Worf, but perhaps the science person like the larger screens and sit-down chairs.
Perhaps Picard as history buff talked with other ship history buffs? I bet they had a club or some'n, those scenes got cut out though... Hey, space exploration isn't always exciting.
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Whalen in "The Big Goodbye" wasn't an expert in historical fiction, but in actual history. That'd of course also be helpful when dealing with the supposed 1930s setting.
On a highly automated ship with a thousand crew and supposedly not-quite-useless passengers, one is hard pressed to think of meaningful jobs for everybody. Mr Whalen could have been appointed Official Historian (or A&A, or whatever) just to keep him from going stir-crazy when Mrs Whalen tended the fusion reactors.
Then again, why label this "make-work"? An Earth historian could do good research aboard a starship that has vast and well-organized records - perhaps better than in a planetbound university, even! He might also wish to examine the local records of Earth's assorted colonies. His mission might not be vital to the ship's mission, but OTOH an Earth Historian has indeed often been a handy asset for the Enterprises...
quote:Originally posted by Lee: I'm sure we discussed Janeway's previous command before. Perhaps one of our wizard site-searchers (Jason or Cartman, say, who have this ability to recall and locate something I posted 5 years ago) can dig it up.
Before my time I'm afraid.
Sometimes I search for a topic (usually on starships) and am suprised that it took place before I was a member. As though this place, the internet or anything else ever existed before I dreamed it up. Silly.
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