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Well, I wasn't thinking him a cup of coffee and he asked (well not asked in so many words...we want to be precise here so I don't have to go through the whole I twisted his words around crap).
Omgea, for the watchers of the thread, has no idea how constitutional law works but wants to be the expert. For he has declared the Court's action illegal.
And yet he can't even tell me what the Court's overriding principle was in their decision. As such he have absolutly no grounds to call the decision extra legal.
But that will not stop him from diverting people's attention and saying "find flaw" when the whole argument is based on conservative hatred of a ruling by the Florida Supreme Court.
The Court was right and saying it was extra leagal IS the flaw.
Overriding Principle (what we pay Supreme Courts do deliberate about) is what the whole case comes down to....did anyone read the opinion?
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"I've told you that your basic premise that the Court acted in an extra legal manner is flawed."
Ah, THIS explains your confusion! That is NOT my premise. That is my CONCLUSION. The little numbered things underneath them are my premises LEADING to that conclusion.
"The Court was right and saying it was extra leagal IS the flaw."
So basically, you've just said that the flaw in my argument is not in the argument at all, but in the conclusion? Again, "Screw logic, the court is right, no matter what."
Now, I'm again going out on a limb, and I'm going to try to decypher what you're saying, since you refuse to give the straight, simple answer I desire. It SEEMS that you're saying that my premise that the court wrote new law is the incorrect one. Is this what you're trying to say?
If so, then I'd love to see how you can possibly interpret Florida law to add in the word "arbitrarily," or to give the power to extend a deadline to a court. It ain't there. They created it.
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Read the opinion and come back with the overriding principle.
Or keep pointing to the dark space in your mind and trying to distract people from the Court's legal basis.
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I think what it comes down to is that Omega could add his name to the dissenting opinion...had any of the justices dissented.
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Okay. bright boy. YOU post the "overriding principle" so we can get this over with.
Oh, and it's AD-HOMINEM. At least try to pick your knuckles off the ground long enough to spell it right, you ignorant savages.
(for those of you not bright enough to 'get it' and not be offended, that whole 'ignorant savages' bit is simply a little reverse ad-hominem, so they can know what it's like. Those of you who actually HAVE brainstems may continue.)
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I've noticed you guys spend more time talking about Omega than contributing to the discussion. Its one of the reasons I don't often join these discussions.
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Agreed...maybe these discussions could be more productive if people wouldn't attack him so often...
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"Thank you"? What the hell is that supposed to mean? It's not on topic, and I'm sure it's an ad-hominiumium, and ad-titanium, and certainly is an ad-vertisementum. FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!!!! POST THE KNIGHTRIDER PRINCIPLE!!!!!
Oh, hell, it's David Hasselhoff. HE'S the PRINCIPLE. Ugh.
Although, I can understand why poking fun at Omega's expense is common. Holier-than-thou attitudes deserve a smack in the head, and since these guys are not close enough to Omega to Layeth the smacketh down, they 'word murder' him.
And, it's not like Omega's the perfect little, non-insulting, non-derogatory blanket statement king himself. Oh no.
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For Your Edification, Omega isn't the only person to hold this opinion on the court's overstepping its authority. Some REAL "legal experts" apparently agree... at least, enough to file their own suit and brief...
From MSN News:
"Bush's brief asks the court to overturn the Florida Supreme Court's ruling last week that required Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris to accept hand-counted ballots after Nov. 14, the deadline she said was set by state law.
Bush's attorneys argued that the Florida court's extension of that deadline violated the U.S. Constitution by infringing on the state Legislature's responsibility to ensure the proper election of the state's 25 members of the Electoral College.
The Constitution, the Bush brief said, gives that power solely to a state's lawmakers, not its courts. The court improperly obliterated that distinction when it allowed hand recounts to continue in three Democratic-leaning counties for 12 days beyond Nov. 14."
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