1. Dracula 2000 2. I said did you see Jerry Ryan... he doesn't know who she is so... 3. Get out a Star Trek Magazine... flip through show him some pics... yep he recognises... then says what's with the Borg thing... 4. I explain what happened re Seven. 5. He mentions 'what's with the implants' 6. I said she still has some implants the Doctor couldn't remove. 7. I mention about ooooh 'the borg' are what we could be come if we're not careful and mentioned that people have already experimented with chips in their arms etc. 8. He looks up at me... and says 'hey thats in the Bible about the end of the world!' (He's done some tertiary religious subject thingys...) 9. He mentions something about it saying that people won't be able to buy food or something unless they had these chips... 10. I make other hypotheses like the Nazi branding of the Jews...ummm, DNA marking... etc. etc. 11. Anyway end of story... SO, I type into the search on the Netscape homepage "Chips, Implants, cybernetics" etc. looking for info on that man and woman who have put chips in their arms and are going to communicate via the 'net... etc. 12. Click on something reguarding "armageddon signs" 13. Click on FAQ... thinking well maybe they'll prove/disprove what we were talking about... 14. Start to get a little anxious... its compelling reading...
OK, I've NEVER read the Book of Revelations or anything... I always thought it too... scary??? And not long back I got in a semi-argument with a Jehova's witness about literal interpretations of the Bible etc.
I'm no Fundamentalist Christian or anything... I just found some of the points on this web site a little too close to home...
and well with stuff like this... It'd be interesting to chat about it... I only basically read the FAQ. The problem is there is something stuffed with their Javascripting... so I had to keep pressing stop and then back to read each next page. There was a final page with a side bar with subtopics like "earthquakes" "plagues" etc... which then twanged in my head... "FOOT AND MOUTH"
arrrrrgh. This all sounds too scary... but read it first and you'll see that ??it sounds pretty 'now-a-days'...
Its not too 'preachy' more 'here is what we can link to what has been said in the Bible...'
Can anyone read all through the FAQ - three pages I think and then those extra topics on the side bar...
just some of the 'examples' were interesting from a "sci-fi" point of view... about one prophet?? from 2500 years ago or something "seeing cars"... or what he would have interpreted as cars...
This is fascinating, yet scarey - yet it explains a lot.
What does anyone else here think... well those who follow the link... If it is true... I wonder if we can stop some of the things from happening!?! Is that the point? I sure don't want to have some chip in me... Borg Borg BORG!
arrrrrgh
ok... go read... and go post...
oh also the 'verses' (bible-y talk) are quoted so - its not heavy in the whole "bible-y talk"?? I don't know if that helps...
Andrew
P.S. in that pic of the card with the chip... can anyone else pick out a 666 from that strange hololettering?? Turn you're head sideways a little and then look using your peripheral vision...
hmmm...
Andrew
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The thing with any religious text is that it can be interpreted in countless different ways for people to prove their own ideas. Just look at all the different offshoots in both Christianity and Islam especially, (but it may exist in other religions too), who claim that theirs is the true belief and everyone else will go to hell. When I see this,I tend to view it with more than a pinch of salt.
That doesn't mean that I'm criticising them for it. They have the right to believe what they want, and I completely respect that. I however have always been a cynic and from personal experience have seen too many people of the same religion come to me and say that theirs is the correct interpretation of the word of god. How can they possibly teach others when they can't even agree amongst themselves?
And anyway, people have been predicting the end of the word since the dawn of organised religion - but we're still here. I'd rather live my life and if the world ends, so be it. If the world does end, I tend to believe that it'll be either to do with world war 3 or a collision with an astral object, ie. asteroid.
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I saw that docummentary too, AndrewR. It IS compelling, but it's full of bull. They also said that every barcode in every product has a 666 in the three division bars (at the beginning, the middle and the end of the barcode), but that number is hidden because the bars don't have the translation!
Heh, it is unsettling indeed. But the human mind is so wonderful that it can take anything and turn it into a sign of world devastation...
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Besides, if the world ends, we'll die. So we won't really have time to worry about it.
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Andrew, there's a book you'll want to read. It's called "Are We Living in the End Times?" by LaHaye and Jenkins. Same two who wrote the "Left Behind" series. It's quite enlightening about end-time prophecy.
Hoof-and-mouth probably isn't one of the plagues from Revelation. 'Least, not in the porportions it affects the world now. I suppose it might eventually become one, though, but believe me, before you start thinking about plagues, you've got WAY more things to worry about: Antichrist, false uber-religion, nuclear war, famine, giant earthquakes...
See, all these things don't just HAPPEN. There's a specific sequence of events. You'll see the greatest calamities coming, if you read the Book. Assuming you stick around for it, of course.
There really is good reason to think that the majority of end-time prophecy will soon come to pass. Some prophecies have come true in this century. A war that would start between two kings, and grow to encompass all nations, for example: sound like World War I? Heck, Isreal didn't even exist as a country until '47, and that's required for Revelation to come to pass.
BTW, think about this: what are the odds of the Jewish people still existing nineteen centuries after being driven out of their homeland? For the second time, no less? And yet STILL managing to defeat all odds and return from whence they came? Heck, we wouldn't even know the Hittites existed if it wasn't for the Bible and a 19th century archaeologist, and they were more powerful than Isreal. Why should the Jews still exist, after so many persecutions and attempted exterminations? And doesn't it seem more than a little coincidental that their continuing to exist and live in Isreal is required by prophecy?
Just... think about it.
Look for the rebuilding of the temple, and a failed attempt to invade Isreal by Russia assisted by Arab countries (not necessarily in that order). They're two of the last signs before I won't be around to tell you more.
All you guys, do me a favor, huh? If me, JR, Liz, and a couple hundred million people mysteriously vanish one day, get your hands on the Bible and read Revelation. I mean that.
As for the world ending, it's a funny thing: it doesn't. It's changed incredibly, but it doesn't cease to exist, as such. As I read Revelation, we don't actually go to Heaven for eternity: we live on the "new earth". 'Course, we go to Heaven for a while after we die, but then we come back in the Second Coming with Christ, and from what I can tell, we stay here.
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And I believe that the things in Revelations will happen in way that no one can understand or think of at this time. As well as no one will know when exactly it will happen. Because of that, I do not worry about it, and will continue on making a full life of myself.
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Oh, that's funny. Your saying that the Bible is fiction, and then saying end of story, when we're talking about the last book of the Bible. Ha.
Anyway, your opinion is noted. I doubt it helps Andrew very much, though, so let's please try to stay on the topic of end-time prophecy, instead of trying to prove or disprove various beliefs about the nature of the Bible, huh?
If you want to discuss the subject in private, Andrew, e-mail me. [email protected]
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Just pointing out that I don't see why people get so worked up over it.
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Well, okay end of the world. The millenium was supposed to be one, and that proved to be quite a dud.(not that anyone with half a brain beleived that the world would end when the clock hits 12) I tend to be quite sceptic of any "end of the world" prophecy, because so far any religion has been proven wrong about anything they've ever said. People can keep beleiving what they please, but I'm staying out of it. Besides I don't think that any advocate of their beleif can say anything better than: "We've sinned a lot so god's gonna destroy the Earth." I never actually thought that people paid attention to these kinds of things. As to the devices implanted in people, I still say it's total BS. They shouldn't be allowed because crime would escalate as people got more and more powers, and there would be a new way for athletes to cheat, but it's not gonna make god punish us for our sins, if that's what you think.
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I don't think that any advocate of their beleif can say anything better than: "We've sinned a lot so god's gonna destroy the Earth."
Well, Revelation doesn't actually say that God will destroy the Earth. After the Church does all we can do, we're removed, and God goes to tough love tactics. If a global earthquake happened exactly as predicted, wouldn't it get your attention?
[bio-implants are] not gonna make god punish us for our sins, if that's what you think
I think what he's probably refering to is the mark of the beast, from Revelation. It's a mark on the back of the hand or the forehead, that will be required for you to engage in legal commerce. Lately, that's been interpreted to be a microchip of some sort. Thing is, it's also a mark of loyalty to Antichrist. Basically, you don't get this thing, you probably starve to death, but the only way you CAN get it is to swear eternal allegiance to God's archnemesis. Tough choice, eh? Maybe you should try to avoid it.
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Don't it say in the New Testament that Jesus said that "You will not know the time nor place of my return"?
On a different note - yeah, bad stuff happens a lot in the world. But, hell, that's the world for ya. Personally, I don't attribute this as being a wake up call from God or anything.
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The earthquake would indeed make an impact, and would probably stirr up some beleifs in the apocalypse and other, but I would dismiss it as a coincidence. As to the mark of the beast, well I don't beleive that a piece of technology such as a microchip would mean that we are submitting to the Satan, but it does remind me of a presentation I heard in school. It was on a microchip that links in to satellites and has information on you. It would be used as a tracking device, health monitor and an unfallible ID. Ironically it was called "Digital Angel"
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Maggie-chops said: "One can only hope. I don't see why anyone knocks Revelation, anything that gets rid of millions of Christian 'right', is my kind of tribulation."
LOL!!!!!!!
Good un', boyo!
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