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You wanna know something? I don't believe in God. I don't think He exists, and if he does, he most certainly doesn't care HOW people worship him as long as the follow the Golden Rule: "treat others as you would like to be treated."
The only Christians I don't like are those that clearly break every law supposedly set down for them. I have an especially dark place in my heart for the televangelists -- the very fact that people actually think those charlatans have anything but their wallets on their mind is ridiculous.
I also don't care for people of any religion (and, well, yes, the above goes for those of any religion as well) who try and force their faith on me. Or honestly expect me to believe that the Bible was written by God or that the supposed "faithful" with one day vanish. Hog-wash, I say. Hey -- you got faith? That's beautiful, it really is. But the Bible's still fiction.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
I'm not holier than you. I'm scum. I'm just redeemed scum.
You sure about that? Last I heard, God was mighty dead set against the death penalty. You support that, don't you?
------------------ Star Trek Gamma Quadrant Average Rated 7.64 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux (with six eps posted) *** "Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!" -Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001 **** And homeschooling also turns you into a socially well-adjusted person, capable of talking to people without them wanting to ram a f***ing chair down your throat! - PsyLiam, 3/11/01
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Well there is a lot of stuff that Omega beleives in that god strictly opposes. If we were to connect this debate to the other that would prove omega to be a very big DISbeleiver of god.
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If ever the Pope became the Antichrist (*L*), most Catholics would probably rebel against him.
Well, the thing is, the true Christians at this point would be gone. It'd just be the playacting ones left behind, which would change the entire nature of the establishment. We'll assume that the Pope'd probably be gone, too, along with the majority of the upper hierarchy. It could be some minor Bishop somewhere that ended up being Pope, after telling everyone else exactly what they wanted to hear: that it had nothing to do with their actions that they were left. Someone'd have to fill the role, as there WILL be pseudochristians left behind, and as bureaucracies never die.
Anyway, I doubt he'd be the Antichrist. There's also a false religion mentioned that'd he'd more likely be part of.
Do you admit that saying "you're wrong" makes yourself feel better?
Not in the sense that you're thinking. Pointing out the error of someone's ways is part of my duty, and as such, I enjoy it. I DON'T, however, enjoy the necessity of it. I'd much rather I didn't have to.
Last I heard, God was mighty dead set against the death penalty. You support that, don't you?
A) God told you this?
B) I've explained my views on capital punishment multiple times, as I have with guns. I have no intention of typing them out here again, and wasting space on an irrelevant topic.
Well there is a lot of stuff that Omega beleives in that god strictly opposes.
Such as?
You guys have turned this into a witch hunt instead of an actual discussion of the topic at hand. I knew you'd do this.
*sigh*
Ah, well.
Bring it.
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------------------ Star Trek Gamma Quadrant Average Rated 7.64 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux (with six eps posted) *** "Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!" -Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001 **** And homeschooling also turns you into a socially well-adjusted person, capable of talking to people without them wanting to ram a f***ing chair down your throat! - PsyLiam, 3/11/01
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Nah, God told me to let Omega strut his stuff. He said he'd send us a photo of Omega's face when he saw where he was going to wind up
------------------ Star Trek Gamma Quadrant Average Rated 7.64 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux (with six eps posted) *** "Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!" -Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001 **** And homeschooling also turns you into a socially well-adjusted person, capable of talking to people without them wanting to ram a f***ing chair down your throat! - PsyLiam, 3/11/01
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Tora: I wasn't actually debating the issue. Just what Omega thought I said. I only said everything was boring, so that people knew it was fruitless to debate with me. Instead of arguing, I like reading everything posted, especially what you post, because it's quite different than anything I've been exposed to.
Omega: Scum? Redeemed scum? Is that invincible to Windex?
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*L* I know so many jokes about punishment in hell. Some Guy� was sent to hell, and then he needs to pick his punishment. In the first room he sees a young guy standing on his head on a concrete floor. He says: "Well this will get very painfull in a while, so let's see what else is there." In the second room he sees a middle-aged guy being tortured with fire. He says: "This is definitely not a good choice, the first one was better. In the third room he sees an old guy standing knee deep in s**t and getting a b*****b by a beautifull blonde. He says: "This seems to be the best choice, the smell won't bother me after awhile." So the boss goes up to the blonde and he says:"Get up, you've been releived."
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No one gets it. I'm just about ready to give up. I really am.
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All I can say is: Oh dear. How can you people intellectualize about something that is so deeply personal? If I were to do what you are all doing right now, (and I have done it myself), I would draw several conclusions:
Religious texts are not to be taken literally. They were written with the intention that they set a good example for others to follow.
Saints, prophets, and saviors were not saints prophets and saviors. Good people yes, trying to spread a message of love and kindness, but not sent or instructed by a divine power.
God does not exist. As Eleanor Arroway of Carl Sagan's "Contact" said, if He did, He would make His presence a lot clearer.
Fortunately, since I don't intellectualize, I only believe in the first two.
I warn you that I will now begin to rant. If you feel offended by any of the comments I make, they are of my own beliefs and please understand that if you believe in something different, that's okay by me. I many think you a bit more stupid, but hey, :-).
Do you people really believe in the book of revelations or whatever its called? Do you really believe the earth was created 6,000 years ago? Do you people believe a car that is sanctified by a priest in Rome won't have an accident? HOW NAIVE CAN YOU BE?!?!?!
Do you believe in the contradictory NONSENSE that is put forth by organized religion around the world? How can anyone with a shred of intelligence believe any of the idiotic trappings of religious dogma?
How have we as humans allowed this to influence so greatly our actions? Wars have been fought in the name of God. Priceless statues have been destroyed because of religion. The man in the pulpit will spend more time denouncing the economic crisis than bringing you closer to God.
AARGH! It just boggles the mind! The deepest connection you can have with God is within you. It is not of the mind but of the heart. It is that feeling of wonderful contentment, pure happiness, that so many of us lose connection to after childhood. Can you honestly say that you feel that every day? Even I, who actively seek it out, cannot.
I believe God does not punish, in fact is incapable. I believe he loves us all no matter what we do, and will always be there for anyone, even those who turn away. I don't believe in hell, and I'm not even sure I believe in heaven. I don't think about the afterlife very often because I'm more concerned with the now. If you can't find your connection with God in the now, who says you'll find it later?
You can't intellectualize a feeling. All of the religious mumbo-jumbo you're all concerned about was written hundreds and thousands of years ago. It was meant for a different time, a different people. It was a lesson of compassion which by the middle ages was turned into a tool for control.
You can't honestly believe that somewhere within that labarynthine structure of words and lofty ideals you can find God? Can you? I can find God without reading a page of it. Without even hearing about it. can you say the same? Has all of your belief in that truly brought you any closer to happiness and the enjoyment of life?
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Again, I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.
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