quote: The Soviet bloc not only sold Saddam its WMDs, but it showed them how to make them "disappear." Russia is still at it. Primakov was in Baghdad from December until a couple of days before the war, along with a team of Russian military experts led by two of Russia's topnotch "retired"generals,Vladislav Achalov, a former deputy defense minister, and Igor Maltsev, a former air defense chief of staff. They were all there receiving honorary medals from the Iraqi defense minister. They clearly were not there to give Saddam military advice for the upcomingwar�Saddam'sKatyusha launchers were of World War II vintage, and his T-72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and MiG fighter planes were all obviously useless against America. "I did not fly to Baghdad to drink coffee," was what Gen. Achalov told the media afterward. They were there orchestrating Iraq's "Sarindar" plan. The U.S. military in fact, has already found the only thing that would have been allowed to survive under the classic Soviet "Sarindar" plan to liquidate weapons arsenals in the event of defeat in war � the technological documents showing how to reproduce weapons stocks in just a few weeks.
quote:Ion Mihai Pacepa, a Romanian, is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.
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This is still alive.... Wow... is all I can say...
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'Ey up, Conan the Librarian's back. And this week's contenders for the Evil Foreign Nation Of Foreigners Who've Spirited Away Iraq'a WMDs is. . . *drum roll* Russia! Gosh. That just leaves the United Kingdom, and Martians.
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quote:I did not fly to Baghdad to drink coffee....
I imagine that being said in a thick Russian accent. I wish we had audio of it.
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Haven't the Russians already been the bad guys?
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Small axis.
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quote:Originally posted by Wraith: Haven't the Russians already been the bad guys?
To quote Ben Stiller from Zero Effect:
quote:"There are no "good guys"! No "bad guys"! We're just a bunch of....of GUYS!"
The Russians are hurtin for cash so it's no big suprise they sell what they can to whoever has the cake to buy it.
The truly scary thing is that a LOT of the talk spouted by the Rush Limbaugh crowd at the war's begining has recently been proven correct. Including the Russians training the Iraquis on how to make/ ditch WMD's. When Limbaugh is right (and writing Op/ed pieces for Wall Street Journal) we're all hosed.
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I guess I should have place something there to indicate amusement over the fact that this hasn't dried up yet.....
No, no, we haven't had the Peruvians as bad guys yet, nor the Easter Islander's...
But their time is coming I tell ya....
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I've never trusted Easter Islanders and I never will: I've never forgiven them for the death of my boy.
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i dont recall passing the catchphrase baton to the next runner on that one.
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That's a baton?? and here I was thinking you were really happy to see me back.... Oh well, I guess I am more pleased this way....
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It is, so far, the theory which best supports what is known.
I'm waiting for any sort of actual factual attempt at debunking, but I know how likely that its from this crowd.
It even fits in with the Russians leaving Iraq at the last minute, and coming under fire.
It fits in with the documents, so many of which have been found that the inspection team still hasn't finished going over them, hasn't even filed any preliminary reports.
It fits in with the lack of substantial finds, since the Russians had most thorough about these kinds of things.
It fits in with both the posturing about AND the lack of use of such weapons.
It simply... fits.
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Just to play Sadaam's Advocate, the nonexistance of WMD's in Iraq and Russia just generally being an ass would also account for all those things. Of course, it wouldn't account for all the unaccounted-for WMD materials.
So question: do we invade Russia?
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