"I didn't say anything about dating, I just wouldn't MARRY someone like that."
Well, there we get into my opinions on dating, in which I wouldn't go out with someone if I thought there was zero chance of marrying her successfully, like in, at least for me, an internet relationship (which is why I haven't made a pass at Liz ). But that's just me. Either way, what I said would apply.
"anyone can be completely sorry AFTER the fact."
Of course they can. But most people aren't. That's the difference. If I were to ask Shik if he regretted not waiting (I'm not asking!), I'm sure he'd respond in the negative, with a couple obscenities thrown in for good measure.
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"I'm not asking!"
Too late!! Shouldn't have said it!!
Do I regret not staying a virgin until I was married? Good lord 'n' BUTTER, no! Am I glad for the huge amounts of experience & learning over 8 years? HELL, ya!
Do I wish it could've happened, say, 5 or 6 years later? I could see that, sure. On the other hand, I turn 25 tomorrow & I can safely say that I've outgrown that "must fuck everything that moves" stage that other males my age are in. I WANT to because that's biology....but I don't make an EFFORT to.
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I have to ask, why is having sex before marriage so bad anyway? If both sides know the score, know that it's just a one-night thing, or a casual relationship, when what's the problem?
And don't use the "pregnacy" argument. If they don't take precautions, then that's there fault. You can't then blame all sex ever for it, no more than you could blame a penis for ejaculating.
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I don't think it's fair to jump down Shik's throat (Pseudo-pun intended), as he's not doing anything wrong, and not hurting anybody (Unless of course, she likes it rough).
If I could get laid, by a girl who actually wants to, and not like an escort or something, I would. Of course the problem is that of obtaining a consenting female. Damn my brutish ugliness, damn it all to hell.
So, I'll be a virgin before I'm married, because nobody would actually want to sleep with me beforehand, although to be married, again you need a consenting female, and the conundrum that is my life starts again.
I should become a monk.
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Or gay.
No, seriously...I'm finding that looks don't matterto the right people. Of course, once you get someone, the wrong people want to ride your rodeo rod all the time.
Wait, "girl?" :::checks shorts::: Damn. Thas' a big clit.
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I meant the partner, see, you're not hurting anybody, unless she (your partner) wants to be hurt, therefore the roughness comes in.
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"I don't think it's fair to jump down Shik's throat (Pseudo-pun intended), as he's not doing anything wrong, and not hurting anybody (Unless of course, she likes it rough)."
Well, the problem is that Shik (I assume, correct me if I'm wrong) is doing it mostly for the physical side of things. But humans are not solely physical beings...everyone needs to balance their physical, emotional, and logical selves in order to function in society.
I should become a pop psychologist.
("Well, Mr. Coca-cola, the root of your problems seems to lie in your unconscious desire to be free of carbonation...")
(Does anyone think I'm crazy yet?)
(I'M NOT CRAZY! THE IGUANAS ARE FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES ONLY!)
I apologise. I shouldn't write stuff at 2:30 AM the morning before I'm due to turn into a television studio. Where are my jungle thorns?
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Actually, in my opinion, the "pregnancy arguement" is the only thing that makes it wrong, in a moral sense. As Frank pointed out, whether someone uses "precautions" or not, there's still a risk involved. I don't think it's a risk one has the right to take so recklessly.
Once that's out of the way, I don't think there's a right/wrong issue to it. It's just a matter of personal opinion. If you place a lower value on sex than I do, if you think it's just fun to get off when you feel like it, that's your prerogative. Personally, I have to sode w/ Ziyal on the matter, but I wouldn't try to impose that belief on anyone else.
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On second thought, I agree w/ Ziyal only in principle. I don't agree completely, because she said "marriage". I would say "marriage, or the equivalent thereof". After all, "marriage" usually refers to the legal or religious sense. I have no use for the latter, and the former doesn't really mean anything except in legal matters. So, rather than marriage, I would think a mutual decision to "be married", as in spending the rest of their lives together, would suffice.
But, that's just me. Maybe some other people feel they really can't be committed to another person until a judge or a priest tells them they're committed... :-)
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:::corrects Frank, but only partially:::
I can honestly say I loved every woman I've been with to some extent or at some point. Of course, I won't deny that a lot of it was for mutual physical gratification. When I'm really truly in love, I don't even think about the sex....which is what's worrying me about the girl I've been talking with of late. Last thing I want or need right now is to fall in love....
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Because you lose control and power? That's a common argument, you know.
I feel saving yourself before marriage puts you in a different risk, because you can find out on the wedding-night that you're really incompatible with this person and can't please him/her. Besides it probably will get awkward, it being the first time for both of you, and kinda get's in the way of the whole experience. Now that's a honey-moon killer.
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). But that's just me. Either way, what I said would apply.
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