Here's my idea for a name: We can call ourselves the "Trek Tech Think Tank", abbreviated to the "T4 Group".
Edit: Could also mean "Tac Tech Think Tank" or "Theo Tech Think Tank" for a more in-universe sort of name. Sub in "test", "train", or other suitable one-syllable T words at your convenience. Same acronym.
Mark, Civilian Tactical Consultant
[which could mean Chicago Transit Commission too]
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ATTN: I'm setting up a mailing list for the group. Anyone who has expressed his interest but hasn't received a confirmation should contact me at: [email protected]
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No, I know... Just experimenting. Could be a neat nickname.
Anyway, for latin phrases. How about something like "Agnitio pro tutamen", or "Knowledge for Defence", as a starting place. And yes, I had to look that up.
Mark
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Ultra Magnus/ID Crisis: I unpacked yesterday, and found a box of Ptototype and E-A Deck Plans. I'll come up with a fair price, and look up international mail (unless you want FedEx). Money Orders work best for me.
Basil: Why don't I send you higher rez shot of equipment sheet? or Adobe Illustrator 1.0. Post test results on site. That way all can see and comment, and we'll get a final "look" faster.
Jeff: "Grammar Design & English Control"? - to the dungeon!!!
Grant: If I thought your friend could do the entire deck plans in 3d perspective (or "walk-through"), I'd do handsprings. (Lance would wet his pants).
Lance: Relax Number 1, computers don't like me either. Murphy Factor. And regarding the T4 concept - we could us it as a byline in the shield.
Chris: The Ranking Structure and Heirarchy concept is great! I played with something like that myself once. Talk to Fructose 1 (he's the real-time military guru - but remember people: NAVY).
Shik: Once again, I stand aghast and in awe of your technological fortitude. I'm sure you're right. What is a blog? Is that like a BBS? I'd rather have a closed BBS than use email.
Vogon: Nice Acronym.
Bernd: Nice start to the shield - but let's think outside the box. Higher tech. And just between us team-mates, I always disliked the basic Starfleet Arrowhead symbol. What about the one Geordi wears as captain of Challenger? Text-wise, I like the LCARS look from my deck plans (inside a frame?). As Shik would say: "I dunno". Just keep 'em coming. When I designed the logo for my company, It too over 50 designs before the suits liked one (which is why they put caffiene is Coke).
Mark: Theoretical...Tactical...Testing...Threshold... Keep working on it. See note to Vogon.
(whew...)
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A blog is a sort of online diary / BBS / message board, which people can e-mail to and have the results displayed on a website. Nice utility to have.
And "Trek Tech Think Tank" said fast, over and over, is a great way to make people dizzy. Or get rid of siblings. Or both. Anyway, I'm gonna break out the thesaurus and find some more words.
Mark
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Hey, Dave, what about me? I'd like a copy of Prototype, too!
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Shik
Starship database: completed; History of Starfleet: done; website: probably never
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:::smacks table to get attention::: GENTLEMEN!!
Cart. Horse. One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong.
Logos, mottos, group names, ranks, etc.--all fine, well & dandy. But it's minutiae. Let's get crackin' on the task at hand; the eccentricities, vagaries, & ultradetails of geekdom can be handled after the fact.
Dave (do you prefer "Dave" or "David?"): Don't be in awe; I'm ballsing it just as much an anyone else.
"Blog" is short for "weblog," a CGI script on a site that allows the user to post whatever random thoughts run through their head at whatever time they desire. Many folks like me have one on their person site, & I intend to get one once I move to a new server. Perhaps in the interim Bernd, Lance, or someone else would like to host one; I highly recommend Greymatter over Blogger. However, worst case scenario, we start a Blogger-powered one & it gets hosted at Blog*Spot.
Shiki's Final Thought: We've got a lot of good talent here, a lot of good raw power. It's time to focus it. I suggest that we begin to finalized who's heading what, working with who, & the like. Then we can figure out exactly where to start.
Geek resum� forthcoming; maybe I'll write it at work depending on who's closing tonight,
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Shik: When you're right, you're right. We do need to coordinate talents/abilities/time available. Sounds like an administration task.
The part I personally like is to gin-out new items or ideas, then put them forward for examination & review. Not too organized, but other people are good at that.
Talk it over with Lance?
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David: Hi-Rez sounds great. I love the deck plans. I have placed clips of the specific items you mentioned on a smaller, quick & easy reference graphic, but the details on the shield generator are still a little fuzzy. Are there only top plan views or have you imagined any perception of their other profiles? Either way I am mulling over what I already have and the ideas are sprouting.
I am currently sketching some ideas (I still love paper) before I start committing to my 3-D software, but that never takes long. My first technical question though: Are the shield generators merely responsible for the generation of shields and deflectors (i.e. they relay energies to emitter dishes and grids throughout the ship where needed) or do they play a direct role in the emission of the fields themselves (i.e. they are the central core of overlapping fields)? This might affect how I interpret the outer shape and details on this particular piece of tech.
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Basil: As I understand it from the guru's Sternbach and Okuda, the generators create the effect, but the external ship's grids modulate and position it. Thus in my plans you will find: 1 - generators for Shields/Screens. 2 - generators for the Structural Integrity Field (the emitters for which are the two sets of four raised "pipes" on the upper aft portion of the saucer hull, as well as various smaller lengths of thinner "pipe" all along the hull.
In the novel "The Mote in God's Eye", the Langston Field Generator did indeed radiate its effect from the generator itself (thus the generator had to be placed at the ship's center), but that does not seem to be the case in Starfleet vessels.
Higher-rez images for these en-route. I will leave it to you to come up with more than one idea for the solid view of these generators, and then we will debate as a team. Personally, I note that Federation technology tends to be built as modules, and the shapes of said modules are usually simple solids - cubes (rounded), cylinders (with rounded ends), etc. With the use of cut-outs (such as in the walls of the Sickbay), this can be made to look quite high-tech, without being too complicated.
If I have time, I will gin-up a view on my conception. Anyone else?
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I am in agreement with the way shields work, also believe they are an integral part of the cloaking system on those races that possess them (the reason why shields are down when cloak is up).
second thing...If we are going to use an "Arrowhead" in the design...how about splitting it vertically, half as normal, the other half showing the inner workings...
Art
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Hi Dave, Tim here. I told you there would be interest in Excelsior plans, didn't I! Anyway, you mentioned 3D walkthrough of sorts. When we get together I have a few things of that ilk that you may like. I might just send you a couple jpg's come to think of it. For the logo, have you guys checked out the really cool klingon logo that the interplay site has for their background for their klingon academy site? It's a very stylized klingon symbol. I think that is the way to go with the arrowhead thingy. Later..
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