quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Go here, you'll be impressed, I promise!
Even worse than the cardboard box look of the SFB ships! Awful.
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There is nothing concrete that it was first contact, nor is there anything even subtle that would indicate the contrary. I just believe that the Gorn is a facet of Trek-lore that does not need to be explored, as we previously have established that there is plenty of other fruit on the vine for the writers to pick from.
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...yeah. Like the Borg. I just really really wanna see the Telerites done well.
..and I want Porthos to come back. "Dogs don't know it's not bacon!"
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So do I, but aside from owning tons and tons of freighters they havent really built up anything on them yet. Don't they have somewhat of an ornary demeanor similar to the Andorians?
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Starbuck: About the Gorn, I was referring to the fact that "Arena" made it quite clear that the Cestus III attack was the first contact the Federation had made with them. Therefore, they are not suitable candidates to appear on Enterprise
D'oh. I've not seen the episode in some time, so I concede to your superior knowledge. Then again, the NX-01 has already encountered the Ferengi, and we already know that first contact with them was made by... Jean-Luc Picard!
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: So do I, but aside from owning tons and tons of freighters they havent really built up anything on them yet. Don't they have somewhat of an ornary demeanor similar to the Andorians?
It could have been just that one little piggy with a bug up his butt. DS9 showed us some really bitchy Federation Ambassadors too. ....and there was the one that Sisko punched..... ...and Luwaxana Troi. She's no gem either. In fact, now that I think of it, all the ambassadors shown seen to be childish, whiney jerks.
I think I recall a Telerite engineer from one of the Trek novels, but that's not....wait for it.... ...wait for it... ...."canon".
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So what's in your personal canon? No, wait, don't tell me...
...canonballs
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Well....gee, Starbuck....I don't hardly know you and you want to see my personal canon...
Sorry, I keep that one solely for the ladies.
...and the Tholians, of course.
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"The Enterprise is dead in space: stopped cold during her pursuit of an alien raider by mysterious forces. And I have been somehow whisked off the bridge and placed on the surface of an asteroid, facing the captain of the alien ship. Weaponless, I face the creature the Metrons called a 'Gorn': large, reptilian." ... "I am engaged in personal combat with a creature apparently called a 'Gorn'." -Captain Kirk, "Arena"
Obviously, Kirk had never heard of them before. And the bridge crew looked rather surprised when the Gorn captain first appeared on the viewscreen. But, otherwise, there's technically no proof that it was a first contact. Only that the Enterprise crew weren't familiar w/ them.
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But, then again, one would suspect that the Enterprise crew would be briefed on all lifeforms known to the UFP at the time. What with being on the edge of known space and stuff.
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Mabye the Gorn made initial First Contact with the UFP inly yo be dismissed as obscene callers: ...all that heavy breathing and hissing over the channel....
I'm hoping we don't see the Gorn....but betting that we do in the next sweeps week.
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Considering the nature of one of the long-running story threads in the show, there's no reason any Gorn shown would have to be from the 22nd century.
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