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I don't think the E-nil was supposed to be the flagship. In the early days, didn't they (read: GeneR) was the E to be "just another ship", not anything particularly special in and of itself (at least, as far as Starfleet was concerned)?
And, even if the E's were flagships, wouldn't they want to have good captains on them? I mean, Kirk and Picard, of course, are supposed to be two of the greatest captains in SF history. Even Chris Pike got an award named for him, and Rachel Garrett seemed to be pretty good, from what little we saw of her. But then, what do we do w/ Tuesday Harriman? If the E-B was the flagship, why in the world did they put him in charge? :-)
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Alan Ruck is the man and quite frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing him skipper the Ent B in an Enterprise B series or mini series. But that's another thread. As far as Harriman's incompitence, I think the movie may have overstated it slightly. Don't you think he learned from that experience? Plus, it's likely that he was simply in command of the ship during it's trial runs and final checks. He may have even gotten to deliver it somewhere when operational command would be handed over to another captain, who was possibly commanding another ship at the time.
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1: You're welcome 2: http://shipyard.scifi-art.com (these are not of the official Ent-E, but are damn near close to it) 3: You need to have over 250 posts until you can do that.
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All right, I hate Harriman as much as anyone. No, it's not because Kirk died on his watch. No, it's not because of what the did to the Excelsior to make his boat. However, as was pointed out to me once, he could have just been overwhelmed by the combination of a living legend, the Big Chair of the flagship, and the reporters. To his credit, his initial response was to protect his ship and crew.
I'd still like to think the real captain came Tuesday, though.
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Well, that's just the problem. A really good captain wouldn't have been nervous, or at least wouldn't let it affect his performance so much.
Of course, you could also argue that he didn't let it affect his performance, and that his performance is that bad anyway. :-)
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Propulsion: Auxiliary ADDITIONAL SYSTEMS - reaction control thrusters emergency manual overdrive
Computer HARDWARE - bio-neural gel packs SOFTWARE - LCARS version 2.5 interface DATA TRANSFER RATE - 6200 kiloquads per second NUMBER OF DEDICATED MODULES - 1800 per core STORAGE CAPACITY - 725,000 kiloquads per module (total 1,305x106 kiloquads per core) COMPUTER CORES - 2 in primary hull 1 in engineering hull TOTAL STORAGE - 3.915x106 kiloquads
Communications TRANSMISSION TYPES - voice and data RANGE - personal communicator 800 km ship-to-shore 42,000 km (normal) 100,000 km (extreme) TRANSMISSION SPEED - data: 18.5 kiloquads per second subspace: Warp 9.9997
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Maximum cruise velocity is only warp 9.7 ?? Somehow I doubt that. The Ent-D could go to warp 9.8 without any big problems. And the Ent-E has both more advanced systems and longer nacelles. as a matter of fact: The Sovereign class has longest nacelles of all Federation ships.
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I think the Sovereign class is as most Starfleet ships a jack of all trades , from Diplomatic or Political Missions to a heavy battlecruiser of sorts
As for what she was doing during the Dominion war , I think she was kind of a moral boaster , maybe she cruised around federation worlds to bring sprits up and the like , the federation wouldent send the its largest vessel to fight against dozens of small ships , we all saw what happeneds to Galaxy Class Ships , they are swarmed by Jem Hadar and then when the sheilds fal the Jam Hadar Ram the ship . like fighting a Gurrela War with B-52s , it would work to some extent but the Gurrelas would soon develop tactics around them , for example during Vietnam when the VC was being bombed by the US they soon started clinging to US Platoons , that way if the US used B-52's they would risk harming US troops . So in a fight between a Sovereign and 5 Jem hadar Attack Ships , I think the Jam Hadar would come out the victor with the Sovereign taking heavy losses .
In my opinion there is only one Sovereign in active service that being the Enterprise which was originaly the USS Sovereign during its designing and construction but later renamed enterprise after the E-D was lost , Why do i believe there is only one you ask ? well I imagine a Ship like the Sovereign would take more then 4 years to contruct 1 year in testing until it is Officialy Comissioned that makes for a total of 6 years from conception to service . The Enterprise-D was destroyed in 2371 and the Enterprise-E was Comissioned in 2373 so i think my thoery is sound. So if there is another Sovereign shy is most likley either still under construction or in the testing Stage.Also Id like to say somthing about Starship naming , Starfleet does indeed rename vessels , case in point the USS San Paulo which was renamed USS Defiant at the request of Admiral Ross , What makes you think they wont do this for an other ship ? espeacialy for the Enterprise .
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I don't see much reason to assume that the Enterprise is the only Sovereign around. Sure, Geordi said she was the most advanced ship in the fleet, but he said that about the D too, and she certainly wasn't the only Galaxy.
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). Apparently it was written by John Eaves and Rick Sternbach, modified by me to add workbees (seen on the MSD).
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