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Oh ok , I have been looking for the canon reg for a while so that i can put it on my page , I guess the search contenues :-)
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Sovereign pics are available from [url]http://members.xoom.com/devilsworld6/startrek/sovereign/index.htm[url]
As for the Enterprise-E being the Flagship, well I doubt it.
Also, I know she is pretty meaty, but if she is the most advanced ship in the fleet, WHY was she so easily kaned by the Sona and WHY does the most advanced ship in the fleet have an optional 'JOYSTICK' control?????
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Why do you doubt it Devilman? I'm not mocking, I'm just curious. I've just always assumed that this was true given the tradition of continuing the registry number.
I notice you're a new member here, but haven't I caught you over at scifi-art before?
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I've been there (Devils World) they have some extremely great images. Those Sovereign ones for example are awsome.
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According to Captains Chair, which, i know, is not entirely cannon: The Enteprise-E can out manuver ships 1/3 of her size even at warp.
Also, a Joystick is generally easier to control a ship with then a LCARS pad. Having a manual maneuvering column makes sense for situations such as that one, this might even become a common thing for future Starfleet ships.
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Exactly. A joystick is hardly a bad element, and often a reason people tear down Insurrection, too.
Well, Captain's Chair also says the Defiant can land, etc. Way too high on the speculation. It's hardly even "official" to me. I mean, Ron Moore once said something like, "Oh really? I didn't know the Defiant could land, and I have all the official+canon information" (which, TSN and Frank might say is not worth much, but the point remains ).
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BTW - The Enterprise-E IS the flagship. Have you people become so stubborn as to take a "if they dont say it, it is false" view twoards trek?
Think about these:
-The Enterprise-E was the most advanced ship of its time. -The Enterprise-E welcomes new races into the federation. -The Enterprise-E is a successor to 5 flagships under the name Enterprise. -The Enterprise-E is commanded by the crew of the previous flagship. -The Ent-E IS the flagship according to Captains Chair, although that isnt really cannon.
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"BTW - The Enterprise-E IS the flagship. Have you people become so stubborn as to take a 'if they dont say it, it is false' view twoards trek?"
No, but if they don't say it, we don't know if it's true.
"The Enterprise-E was the most advanced ship of its time."
Well, I mean, the USS Constitution is the flagship of the US Navy...
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quote:The Enterprise-E welcomes new races into the federation.
Actually, those little people in Insurrection were just becoming a protectorate, but you point remains.
And Captain's Chair is far from canon. I like a lot in it (and the idea itself), but you'd think they'd have cut down on some of the weird parts (like arbitrarily saying Defiant-class ships can land, while it goes against the class's other design elements)...
We don't know for sure the Enterprise-E is the flagship, though. It's way more than likely, and I doubt anyone here would want it any other way (except for Frank, maybe ); but we can't just say it IS the flagship.
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Well, the only reason I doubt that the ENTY-E is the current federation flagship is because:
Just becuase its the ENTERPRISE doesnt mean that it is by default the Flagship. It`d be nice to assume that, but until some official thing in some magazine says it is so, speculation isnt enough to justify the fact.
Also, wouldnt also be logical to assume that a GALAXY CLASS ship would remain the Flagship? I mean, just because a newer starship is more advanced doesnt propmote the class to FLAGSHIP. Hell, the Intrepid class and Defiant class are more advanced than the Galaxy, but you dont see those being made Flaships!
Regarding the Defiant, it CAN land on Planets because in a shematic in a recent Star Trek magazine, it shows the little landing legs! (Dont ask me which one - it was a friend of mine`s who is on holidays - plus we are in Australia, and waaay behind the rest of the world!)
And, regarding my place in Scifi-Art, I realise there may be some 'bad blod' between these two forums, but I am not exactly 'High Up' with the SFA, alothough I am a senate member. (more of a 'silent' member)! I do mucho renderings for them, and they teach me techniques!
Y`know, we could argue the FLAGSHIP thing for ever, but what it boild down to is the rule that we have folowed since Trek began:
Until it is mentioned in an Episode, Magazine, or other official source, it is NOT so. Wishful thinking or hoping doesnt make it so. So, until some writer sneaks a one-liner in about the Enty-E being the Flagship, she is, for all intensive purposes, NOT!
PS - ta for the nice comments on my site. It is quite a chore to keep it updated and running smooth!
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); but we can't just say it IS the flagship.
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