quote:Originally posted by koy'peled Oy'tio: Anyway i don't get the big deal about this new hand phaser...all it is is an upgraded version of what the set was using before nothing to bring out the schematics for or anything.
I don't even understand it. I assume you're saying that it's a simple upgrade of the FC design. Of course the two are similar, but the point is, it seems to be a different prop. The thread was started because some of us dig seeing new stuff. Some of us even make websites about new stuff.
The Trek explanation for the new design will probably never be given, but a small efficiency or power upgrade might cause a new model to be designed. Art types are always looking for reason to make cool stuff.
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quote:Originally posted by capt ussintrepid: the model makers at AA
Drunks designing props. Well.
I suppose that does tend to explain the Worfzooka, doesn't it.
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When did I say I was accepted?
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And about phasers, it seems to me that is is just laziness on TPTB's part that they wanted to use the Endgame phaser, because that was supposed to be in the 2400's, right? And what's wrong with the old borgkiller from First Contact?
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quote:Originally posted by capt ussintrepid: the model makers at AA
Drunks designing props. Well.
I suppose that does tend to explain the Worfzooka, doesn't it.
LOL, OK no more abbreviating Art Asylum. Though you're right, it certainly would explain Worf's whatever it was
Anyway, looking at the few released promo pics from Nemesis, there are a few (barely discernible) views of the hand phaser. To me it looks as though they may have shrunk it a bit as well.
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quote:Originally posted by BWC: When did I say I was accepted?
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And about phasers, it seems to me that is is just laziness on TPTB's part that they wanted to use the Endgame phaser, because that was supposed to be in the 2400's, right? And what's wrong with the old borgkiller from First Contact?
Personally, I think they just wanted a new prop to market, given Art Asylum now has the license for Trek toys. And I guess the Endgame phaser is as good as any. Though frankly I don't see why there was any need to change it. Ah well.
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Laziness? Or maybe a touch of continuity. There was no need to change the com badges for Generations either. They did it so there's a touch of newness to some of the things. Personally, I'd much rather see a slightly different phaser than totally revamped uniforms again. Don't get me wrong... I love the FC unis... they just need to stick around for awhile.
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Nice to see some positive continuity actually.
Either way, I like them, they're a nice updating. I wasn't convinced at first, but the supposed Nemesis paintjob makes a big difference. At least to me.
As for the uniforms, I agree. It's way too soon to change them again. New tech is, I guess, a nice subtle change.
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Agreed there. The FC uniforms haven't gotten much mileage out of them, compared to the DS9/VOY jumpsuits. 2.5 years on DS9, two (now three) movie appearances, and a smattering of guest usages on Voyager isn't much. I'm guessing that out of all the uniforms they have piled up in the Paramount closet, the FC uniforms are probably the least worn and thus would make most sense for showing up on various extras in an inevitable Enterprise episode. This I swear.
As for the phaser, I'm good with that too. Technically speaking, the current type-II phaser has been seen in use since Voyager's second, and DS9's mid-fourth seasons. This is now matching the lasting use of almost any phaser prop has been in service. It's predecessor lasted around 6.5 years (TNG seasons 3-7 plus one year or so). But of course, as far as we can tell the longest in-context service we've known for a phaser is the old Type 3/4 (or whatever Shane called it in Mr. Scott's Guide), which started in the movies and despite bieng replaced in the movie series, was in active use aboard the Enterprise-C in 2344 - over sixty years later! Anyway, most phasers tend not to last very long in their series, and so replacing it wouldn't be a bad idea.
I don't have a problem with the idea of a new prop. But the end result as shown in the EBay photos, well, it seems to me a bit crap really. Maybe they're trying to move away from the standards set throughout TNG etc., hence the now gold-curvy look. But the actual gold-curvy look would be better suited to an alien weapon on Stargate SG-1 in my opinion, not a Starfleet weapon.
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What about yours? Hmm? You know its funny I don't remember being put under a microscope.
Anyway, does any body know if the phaser fights will look the same as the ones on Enterprise? Also I have been noticing something about Schinzon's silhouette looks an awful lot like the dude in the suliban time room.
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: But the actual gold-curvy look would be better suited to an alien weapon on Stargate SG-1 in my opinion, not a Starfleet weapon.
Personally, I really dislike the oval buttons. Though you're right, there is a sort of alienish look to it. Then again, I could kind of see a very loose line of evolution from this to the 29th century phaser.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Drunks designing props. Well.
I suppose that does tend to explain the Worfzooka, doesn't it.
Hey, don't diss the Isomagnetic Thingy-majig. It's way bigger than a phaser, and does much less. The damn thing is the crowning achievement of dumb Starfleet engineering.
Personally, I think the Type-2 phaser of the DS9-FC era has reached its perfection in form. Any changes to it now would only make it uglier again. They might as well as build a completely new hand phaser model.
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