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BTW, if the expanse doesn't exist anymore, what about that 26th Century battle Daniels showed Archer? I was expecting to see the expanse's expansion being contained, not it disappearing altogether.
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I'm a little confused about the lack of communication from Earth in this episode. Sure they were jammed, but after the weapon was destroyed shouldn't Reed and company at least made contact? Instead, they hightailed it back to the Expanse to rendevous with Enterprise. Huh?
Also, with the exception of Yosemite Station there was no indication of any sort of Earth response. In "The Expanse", when Enterprise dropped out of warp with Klingons on her tail, three Starfleet ships were there within seconds. Here, the encounter lasts quite some time, and there is NO response whatsoever. Only Shran's out of the blue (no pun intended) appearance was there.
Methinks that the writers wanted to use Forrest, but perhaps due to production scheduling they ended up with Shran instead. I'd have loved to see a pre-finished NX-02 and some of the other ships in a big finale fight, but for whatever reason there wasn't one. Maybe at least some of it will be explained next season.
All in all though, a satisfying if somewhat confusing episode, especially towards the end. Great stuff on many levels though, and as a whole it's more than worthwhile entertainment.
The Yosemite-3 station seems to be the third successive station, rather than one of three current ones. Reed says "they destroyed Yosemite Station" and Mayweather says "it's not just Yosemite". This seems to imply that there was only one current Yosemite.
Also, Daniels can't pronounce "integral". He said "intregal".
And to whoever asked about what the German woman whispered: I don't think we were meant to know. Some other voice got louder right at that moment and drowned her out.
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- Mayweather says he's 'not getting anything' from any of the orbital stations. This might imply that they are still there, but not responding.
- In the shuttle, Mayweather says 'it looks normal to me'. You'd think someone would recognize the differences between 1940s and 2150s San Fransisco. It also seems like the landing pad Tucker refers to is actually there. OTOH, the shuttle's sensors apparently can't differentiate P-51 Mustangs from a Starfleet vessel.
So it might very well still be the 22nd century, alhough it makes very little sense.
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One would think they would have checked things out with their 'See things at steet-level' sensor before sending a shuttle into an unknown situation
Another thought: What if the planes were brought into the future rather than Enterprise being in the past. It doesn't explain the lack of responce from Starfleet, but it would explain why no one noticed their displacement in time
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Pretty crappy medical tech if they're really in the 22nd century.
Mabye earth was tampered with prior to the Sphere showing/blowing up- explaining why the Intrepid and "Iceland" never made the scene.
No ideas why the Yosemete Station would still be there though.....you'd think they could've called over to Jupiter Station if starfleet did'nt respond.
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Count me in into WTF crowd as well... I gotta get me an aspirin of something.
One other observation: what is this? It was a while since I've seen Nemesis, but it looks to me like that mini-transporter thingy. Or cortical stimulator from Voyager.
I definetly gotta lie down...
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I think that's the little bomb Archer put on the guy before he went kaboom.
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quote:Originally posted by Kazeite: Count me in into WTF crowd as well... I gotta get me an aspirin of something.
One other observation: what is this? It was a while since I've seen Nemesis, but it looks to me like that mini-transporter thingy. Or cortical stimulator from Voyager.
I definetly gotta lie down...
The mini-transporter wasn't even as big as a comm-badge. It was gray. And the lights were covered by a... cover. But I think I've seen that thing before. Incredible galore of information, I know. Maybe I can find an image of the transport device.
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quote:Originally posted by Kazeite: Count me in into WTF crowd as well... I gotta get me an aspirin of something.
One other observation: what is this? It was a while since I've seen Nemesis, but it looks to me like that mini-transporter thingy. Or cortical stimulator from Voyager.
I definetly gotta lie down...
That's explosive device that Reed gave to Archer on his way out of the SuperWeapon.
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quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: One would think they would have checked things out with their 'See things at steet-level' sensor before sending a shuttle into an unknown situation
Or that Mayweather and Trip might've noticed little details like no Starfleet HQ, different skyline, and such.
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MAYWEATHER ( over com ): Bridge to T'Pol. Go ahead. A vortex just opened. It's Degra's ship. ( garbled transmission ) This is Enterprise. Please repeat. ( garbled transmission ) Captain, did you stop the weapon? ( garbled transmission ) Captain? Set an intercept course. It's done. Done? Captain Archer destroyed the weapon. Where is he? Is he okay? Captain didn't make it, Trip. What do you mean he didn't make it? The weapon exploded before he could transport to Degra's ship.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: No ideas why the Yosemete Station would still be there though.....you'd think they could've called over to Jupiter Station if starfleet did'nt respond.
Well they did try to contact the Lunar I Colony...
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