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The list of suspects on that one is pretty short. Can't be a tech-com fighter that Uncle Reese didn't know about (they'd destroy it!) so it's either a Terminator...which doesn't make a huge amount of sense since why would it kill someone who could potentially create Skynet's core programming? Or it's his Russian friend (prime suspect) or perhaps some third part that either (A) Knows about the future and is trying to either prevent it/alter it to their advantage or (B) is just interested in acquiring advanced AI at all cost (Cyberdyne lives? US military?)
Here's a crazy thought, what if delaying judgement day means that in the future there's more than ONE AI running around? Perhaps the other one is on our side or is just "playing chess" with Skynet?
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That would be interesting. Though would it really be on our side or would it just get rid of Skynet so that Skynet isn't cutting in on it's human killing.
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quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: That would be interesting. Though would it really be on our side or would it just get rid of Skynet so that Skynet isn't cutting in on it's human killing.
As I recall Skynet caused judgement day in an act of self defence (from it's POV) so I'm not sure another AI would have the same goals if it managed to survive on it's own (perhaps in the satellite networks?)
As for who's "side" it might be on, I imagine it would be on know one's side, just following program. Pure speculation but it's possible the Chinese had their own equivalent of skynet in place to take over in the event that the ground command was taken out. So it would really have been this program that launched the retaliatory nukes after Skynet's first strike. Perhaps it was also programmed with cyber-terrorism/hacking programming to interfere with enemy systems. So in the post JD world it's hacking into Skynet's factories, reprogramming Terminators and sending them into the past using Skynet's own equipment...and so we have our third party.
I doubt that's what they'll do, but still, it's interesting.
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Okay, so I just had the most ridiculous idea. Many think that Cameron has some other objectives we don't know about. Obviously she wants to keep John alive. But it's interesting to note that in the opening sequence, Sarah says that Skynet has sent machines into the past, some to kill him, and one to protect him. Obviously there could be just someone miswriting the opening, but assuming it's correct, why in the world would Skynet be protecting John?
What if John is supposed to create Skynet?
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Well why would Skynet send one machine to protect him, and many others to kill him? Wouldn't that be self-contradictory?
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I think the open means that some machines have been sent back to kill him, one has been sent back to protect him, but not all by SkyNet. Obviously it's supposed to be a tie in to the openers of the first two movies. Sarah certainly doesn't feel that SkyNet has sent Cameron back. She thinks John did. Whether that's true or not is open for debate.
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I liked how last night's episode really dug into the lore of the first film, and the guy who played Kyle did bear a decent resemblance to Michael Biehn.
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Didn't really dig the idea of the machines tying people up and questioning them in a dark room to classical music and then leaving them go. Didn't really seem to tie in with skynet's previous methods. Terminators always grab someone by the throat and kill them.
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So perhaps these machines don't work for Skynet. Or maybe they do and Skynet is playing a very deep game.
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Well, we don't really know what happened in that room, now do we? Why would they just let everyone go? I think they brainwashed/tagged/did something e-vil to them in order to use them in the future. I thought the use of a 600 series with rubber skin was a nice touch though.
But yes, the tie-ins to the first movie flashbacks were nice, right down to the burned photo.
It seems that TechCon has a decent number of Terminators working for them though. I'm assuming it was TechCon that was hauling the jet engine since a bunch of them were being used to power the time equipment. Not sure how Derrick recognized Cameron as a Terminator when he saw her and yelled "METAL!" He must have seen her model somewhere else before.
Seems Cameron has additional orders. She may just be holding onto the CPU to download info, though.
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Well, we don't really know what happened in that room, now do we? Why would they just let everyone go? I think they brainwashed/tagged/did something e-vil to them in order to use them in the future. I thought the use of a 600 series with rubber skin was a nice touch though.
But yes, the tie-ins to the first movie flashbacks were nice, right down to the burned photo.
It seems that TechCon has a decent number of Terminators working for them though. I'm assuming it was TechCon that was hauling the jet engine since a bunch of them were being used to power the time equipment. Not sure how Derrick recognized Cameron as a Terminator when he saw her and yelled "METAL!" He must have seen her model somewhere else before.
Seems Cameron has additional orders. She may just be holding onto the CPU to download info, though.
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Where was there a 600 series? I didn't spot it.
They do seam to be confusing some details though (or this is the result of the altered timeline.) For instance, the rumbling they hear is attributed to "centaurs" which sound like an unused concept from T2 called a "centurion" (basically a scaled down HK with 4 legs) but the noise itself suggested large tracks, which means they were large HKs. They might be juggling the jargon around a bit so laymen don't get confused when the tanks and flying machines are both called Hunter Killers. Also, the attack on the bunker which happens off screen here is presumably supposed to be the same one Kyle described to Sarah (hence the burned photo.) However here it's said Kyle was gone before it happened, though we know he was right down the hall when the first infiltrator got in.
The battle of Topanga Canyon is also presumably the one we saw at the beginning of T2 and seams consistent with James Camerons original draft (which is much more elaborate than what we saw) though obviously there was no mention of them hijacking a load of T-800s and the Time displacement tech before scarpering.
As for the interrogation sequence, it depends on what Skynet was after. The brainwashing idea is possible, as it would get around the dogs, but I imagine it's unreliable and would require a trigger of some sort. More likely it's a straight forward interrogation for information, remember that Skynet is loosing the war at this point and brute force alone isn't working (hence the terminators to begin with) so I don't see why a Terminator can't be programmed for torture and interrogation.
As for how Derek knew Cameron was a Terminator, I imagine that will be revealed in a flashback yet to come!
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Kyle was there when the first infiltrator got in, but he may have gotten out before the full on fight.
The 600 Series was the terminator guarding the humans in the house and taking them up and down the stairs. At least that's what I thought. You got a close up of his hand a couple of times and it looked very fake like a prosthetic. His face looked like Leatherface too.
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